Sunday, September 14, 2008

Distant relatives, Yorkshire pudding, and church!

Sorry I didn't write in here yesterday - all we did was drive back to Waldron for the family reunion, hang out there with them, and drive back. There wasn't anything much to write about, so I decided to put it all together in today's entry. It was a very small reunion, but it was very significant for them, because many of them hadn't seen each other for many years. Those that showed up were all from the Woodgate side of the family - none of the them even know much about the Hopes. One very interesting old gentleman named Godfrey King, who is the grandson of Fannie Hope, remembered his grandfather as being the called "the poet" - he didn't remember his name. He also remembered seeing the picture of James Eli Hope, who served a mission in England and went to meet family members. They have the picture of him with 2 Woodgate sisters he made contact with, and Godfrey told us he was a preacher who came from America to visit family. Godfrey was really interesting - he kissed both Mom and I on both cheeks as he left.

What we gathered from what they all said was that when the Hopes left for America, the rest of the family just lost touch - they didn't really even remember that they were related to Hopes. So there wasn't even any relations with the other Hopes who didn't go to America. Mom said she just knew her Grandma must be so excited to have 2 parts of her family meeting again and becoming acquainted. It was great fun to sit and listen to their stories, but they weren't really about our part of the family, but Sue and Pam got a lot out of it. One of the really fun things to watch happen was when Sue laid out a picture in hopes of getting the people identified. It was a picture of about a dozen people that Mom and found in Grandma Clays genealogy, and all she knew was that it was Fanny Hope and her family, so she sent the picture to Sue and Pam. Sue had 1 lady identified. Soon as the older people got there, they started naming the people in the picture, and by the end of the afternoon they had everyone identified!

When we got back to Sue's house, we just relaxed and ate supper and watched Pirates of the Carribean. Mom hadn't ever seen it, so I told her she had to see it. Don't think she was that impressed. Which brings me to my next interesting bit of trivia - Jessica, pay attention. While we were watching, Sue told me that Orlando Bloom came from Royal Tunbridge Wells! That's the place where we had lunch the other day when Pam & Roger drove us to Sue's. Now, wasn't that an interesting thing! I've eaten lunch in the town where Orlando Bloom grew up. yay.

This morning, Mom and I went to church. Sue had found the address and the time for us on the internet, and Pam, who was still in town for the reunion and to take us back to her house today, very kindly offered to drive us to church, since Sue now has no car. She was quite taken aback when we told her we wanted to stay for the full 3 hour block. 3 hours at church seems like an awful lot to someone who only goes to church for weddings and funerals, I guess. We tried to explain that it was broken up into 3 separate things, but she still didn't understand. I could tell that they were really hoping we would just go for the first hour, because we were all going out to lunch after we got out of church - they were just waiting for us, and then after lunch we were supposed to leave for Pam's house. But, we REALLY wanted to stay the whole time, so we carefully chose to do what we wanted this time. Church was wonderful! It was like a little bit of home. This is a picture of the chapel, and it's very old, of course, with beautiful arched doorways and ceiling. One of the guys pointed up to the ceiling and the way the beams came to a point, and told us it was Noah's Ark. He said everyone else is wondering where it is, and us Mormons found it! We didn't get to ask how long that particular building has been the LDS church, but it used to be part of a school, as another sign outside says. I was very grateful to be there. As I sat there in sacrament meeting I realized that our family alone could have filled up that chapel as full as it was today. I felt very grateful to those ancestors who left England so they could worship as they wanted. It was very interesting to hear the comments of the people in Sunday School. In one of the prayers they thanked Heavenly Father for the missionaries who left their homes to come teach them about the Gospel. You know, kind of like we quickly ask for blessings on the missionaries? All of a sudden, it meant so much more hearing it from their perspective. In class their comments were about how they are all just learning all these things, about their experiences as new members of the church. And yet, they are all so well grounded - I could tell by their comments they have a good, strong, knowledge and testimony of the gospel. The opening song in Sacrament Meeting was Onward Christian Soldiers, which I know isn't exclusively an LDS song, but there's a line about walking where saints have trod, or something like that, and it brought tears to my eyes, because that's what I feel like I've been doing all week. I know our family is VERY imperfect, but the ones who left knew they had something, and it was so important that they left their home for it, and I'm the beneficiary of their efforts. I'm not really saying this right - it FELT better during the meeting but the words aren't coming out the right way. It was great, anyway.
After church we were taken out to a carvery for lunch (I know, it was Sunday, but we're traveling on the kindness and hospitality of strangers who are not members, and we felt like we were pushing it to ask to go to church). A carvery is basically a buffet to us at home. Only you can only go back for seconds on vegetables, and they don't have quite as much stuff to choose from as we do. It was wonderful. I had Yorkshire Pudding, which is not a pudding to us Americans, but was a type of pastry like a popover. It's sometimes eaten as a dessert, but usually is used to sop up the gravy that goes over the whole plate of meat, roasted potatoes and vegetables, etc. I had a great big one. Doug keeps telling me what I should eat. He told Mom and I to be sure to try these meatballs that were sausage and other seasonings, etc. We're still full!
Then Pam & Roger drove us back to their house here in Woken, where we are doing laundry and getting ready to repack tomorrow. Tomorrow we will leave for Staffordshire, where the Clays and Adams came from. We have a cottage rented for the next 4 nights there, and we've got lots of plans for that area, then it will be up to Scotland from there! We have no idea what access we will have to the internet in the next couple of weeks. We are taking this laptop computer with us, but we just don't know what we'll have available to us. If I don't have internet, I will write my blog and then enter it all when I can. It didn't rain today or yesterday, so we figure we've about had our share of sunny days - looking for more rain as we travel up north. Love to all - we can't believe it's only been a week! Feels like a much longer time with all we've done!






8 comments:

Linda Gibbs said...

Wow! How fun! That is so cool for you to meet relatives. They probably appreciate the get together. Godfrey's eyes look a little familiar, don't they?
That church is beautiful, and I'm sure the members loved having you come to church.
Hopefully you can find an internet cafe, or a McDonald's or somewhere with internet. Keep have a good time!

Heidi said...

Neat Gayla, thanks for those pictures so we can see the people you meet, our distant cousins. I can see the family resemblance in many of them - Linda hit it right on the nose - that is EXACTLY what I thought when I saw his picture. "Hey! he has Grandma Galbraith's eyes! So I guess we can say those are the Hope eyes? Even though that side of the family consider themselves as Woodgates. It's so cool to find people who look like us clear across the ocean in another country. I agree with mom, I'm sure Grandma and all the Hopes are just thrilled for the family to be able to know each other.

So did we write down the names of all the people in the picture now that they are identified?

I think I understand what you are trying to express there Gayla. I felt a similar way when I went to Nauvoo, and did a session in the temple there, knowing that several of my ancestors took out thier endowments there. Also just walking around knowing my ancestors had been there and had sacrificed to be there. Somehow it makes it all more real and meaningful and personal. And I am greatful for them for leaving the legacy of faith for us.

I was going to ask - you had to miss getting to research because of the wreck - will you get any other chance to do so?

Well I hope there will be internet access somewhere so you can keep posting! this has been great fun to read what is going on there almost every day.

Anonymous said...

Here is a link for a wifi hotspot in staffordshire.

http://www.myhotspots.co.uk/wifi-hotspot.aspx?id=8300

Anonymous said...

Hi Darline & Gayla,

Love the blog! Have a working theory for you to consider!

I remember my late Grandmother making reference to the Hope's one day soon after we met. She said they had ALL gone to America and that Fanny was the only one left behind. It appears that Godfrey and the others also have this belief.

Now, this got me thinking! What about their Hope aunts, uncles, cousins etc? I remembered Darline that you explained to me once that they would have experienced great discrimination and persecution for converting to your faith. I thought of this at the time in just general terms within the local community; BUT what if as a result of their conversion their other relatives completely disowned them and their children and broke off all contact? If you put the two things together it goes someway in explaining the lack of the Hope surname and personal knowledge of them among the older generations.

I know you must have been disappointed on Saturday, but with the exception of spouses, everyone there was a direct descendent of Fanny Hope and the Hope family. We have such small families over here (generally) that there aren't that many of us!!!

I hope you have a brilliant time on your travels and look forward to keeping up with your blog. have fun, and take care

love
sue
x

Anonymous said...

Hi Heidi!

The folk in the picture your Mum sent to me are as follows:

Back Row (left to right):
Alice, John Edward, Mable Ruth, Annie, Beatrice Ellen and Fredrick Thomas.

Front Row (left to right):

William Alfred, Martha Rose, Fanny, William and Edith Mary

the little girl in the front is Florence.

William and Fanny had 13 children, Charles died aged 4 months from whooping cough, Frances Emma aged 21 from kidney disease in 1903 and George Ethelbert from influenza and heart failure in 1909. So now we know all the other children are in this picture we can narrow down the time it was taken in.

I love Fanny's expression, really happy and proud!

Janell said...

Hi Gayla and Mom!
What a wonderful opportunity that was to meet all those relatives! How thrilling! And to get all those names of everyone in that picture, what a blessing!
The Church is so cool, it is such a treat to see all these cool buildings, and makes me want to be there seeing those same things with you!
Very grateful for Sue and Pam and family treating you to such a great experience!
Is there a place I can see this picture that you are talking of, and Sue gave the names of to Heidi? I would love to see it.
Sue, I know that Mom and Gayla would never be disappointed in meeting their relatives, no matter how few! It is such a great experience for us all to learn and know about all of you, that we over here, have not got the chance to meet, only hear about, including you and your family, and Pam and her family.
Gayla and Mom are so blessed to have this opportunity. Thanks so much for being such gracious and loving hosts, and family! I know this all is a dream come true for Mom and Gayla, and we all wish that we could be with them, but we are grateful for being able to share this with them, through this blog!
By the way, I am just younger than Gayla, third oldest, I am the one that is a twin.
Looking forward to hearing and seeing so much more, through your trip, Mom and Gayla!
Love you all!
Janell

Anonymous said...

Hi Janell

Very nice to 'meet' you! It has been a pleasure to have your Mum and Sister staying here, they are both really lovely and sweet.

As for the picture, I can send it to by email if you like? Its not a good idea to put your email address here, but perhaps your Mum could forward it onto me for you?

Take care
love
sue

Heidi said...

Hello Sue! Thank you for identifying the people in the picture for us! I don't think I have that picture, though I probably have seen it. I have your email address from an email Mom forwarded to us. I would love to have a copy of the piture, I will send you an email so you have my address. I can forward the picture to Janell or I can give you her email address too.